EO: Again, I've been watching Marvel for as long as I can remember, even before there was a Marvel Cinematic Universe. #TBT-slash-shoutout to Tobey Maguire's Spider-Man, forever in my heart. But — and I might get some heat for this — so far Phases 3 and 4 have been my favorites. They're a departure from the status quo. We're getting more than just Thor and the Hulk and Captain America and all that.
Look, again they're great. But I think you can only do so much with characters that we've grown up with. Even if you're not a huge fan of Marvel, you know who Iron Man is. You can only do so much with the character. I want to learn more about Black Widow. I want to learn more about Shang-Chi. I want to learn more about Black Panther — rest in peace to our forever T'Challa — and that whole story around Wakanda. I want to hear more about the Eternals, and all the villains Tom Holland is going to face in the future Spider-Man movies.
Again, it's kind of coming ba ck to the point that this is what makes a universe. It's multiple people and multiple stories kind of weaving together existing, coexisting, ebbing and flowing. I don't need 15 Captain Americas. As great as Chris Evans' ass is, I don't need to keep watching him fumble the bag and try to save the world and do all this destruction and then be like, "No, Bucky Barnes is my best friend, even though he's killing all these people. Guess I'll save him and cause a rift." OK, I don't care. I don't care. And this new wave is truly where the innovation is, this is where you push the boundaries of storytelling. And this, to me is like, "OK, we know you can do a fun superhero movie. Now let's see what you can do after that." And that's why I personally really loved Eternals. Because again, it was super diverse. I love seeing all these stories. I love seeing all these people from different walks of life come together.
But I think the thing that I liked most about it was that everyone was f lawed. Obviously superheroes are flawed, but I feel — not to keep picking on Chris Evans, because Chris, if you're listening to this, I still love you. But with Captain America, yeah, he has his flaws, but he's always kind of seen as larger-than-life, where it's okay because at the end of the day, he always does the right thing. And then with Eternals, I was truly torn because I actually don't know who the villain was. There's just so much in the film that I can talk about how amazing it was, and I'm upset that people are not on my side.